Yes it is:This email has been circulating before Obama was elected president. Originally it contained Bush's name and Obama has now been substituted for Bush. It originated in
2006 in regards to a confusing parliamentary occurrence that happens when a motion [in this case a senate bill] has a motion to amend attached. People who vote for or against an amendment might vote the opposite on the final amendment dependent on whether the amendment passed or failed. Its not uncommon for them to be characterized as voting just the opposite of how they actually voted. It's also not uncommon for them to unintentionally vote the opposite of what they intended. Amendments can confuse the entire issue as anyone who has dealt with parliamentary processes [Union, board, legislative meetings etc.] can tell you.The original 2006 email mischaracterized the Senate Bill at issue and listed the vote from the amendment to the bill as the vote for the actual bill since that vote tended to be more damming for Democrats. The email further muddied the water by intentionally describing the actual bill as a vote for something other than what the bill was about. The amendment was actually a motion to PREVENT former illegal immigrants from obtaining access to social security payments they had made into social security through fake social security numbers. That amendment failed and that amendment would have actually stopped what the original [and current] 2006 email is claiming congress was trying to do. So during the Bush administration the idea of the 2006 email was to taint the democratic senators who actually voted to prevent what the original email claims to be trying to prevent. The list of senators where dropped as was Bush's name and just Obama is listed now as the purpose of the current email versions intent is to misrepresent him alone and to promote xenophobia.
To see a more current example of how motions and amendments can confuse things click here. [warning it gets even more confusing] The same thing is being practiced in Republican 'ROBO calls' in an attempt to make it appear that democrats are supporting raising the debt limit while opposing spending cuts. [p.s. they aren't but I do.]
To me, the amazing thing about the whole hard core anti-immigration group and the social security is broke group is they are bumping heads in regards to solving their particular grievances. In 2005 [the last year available] it is believed that illegal immigrants using fake social security numbers paid 5 BILLION DOLLARS into social security. This is money they will never get and it represents a plus for the SS trust fund. A minority use fake ss numbers yet they accounted for that much in 2005? Imagine if we legalized even less than half of the illegal's in this country. Since a majority of illegal immigrants get paid under the table and therefore do not pay either income taxes or social security payments imagine how much tax revenue and ss payments are being avoided. Legalizing even a portion of those illegal immigrants, forcing their employees to properly collect those revenues, could be a great boost to both social;l security trust fund and tax revenues. Take it a step further and think what it would do for the unemployment insurance funds if those employers paid premiums for employees that they now avoid by hiring illegal's and paying them under the table.
naturally I've oversimplified the issue, and obviously I have a slanted point of view on the issue, but if Republicans would occasionally drop the 'hard core, take no prisoner approach' to problem solving and look for solutions we might actually see bipartisan solutions instead of reoccurring long term campaign slogans [hot button issues: abortion, immigration, regulations, gay marriage, etc.,]. Identifying the problems is not the same as solving it, we can usually agree on the problem, the problem's solution is seldom obtainable by advocating an extreme or unbending position, compromise moves us closer to a final resolution while unbending stances just guarantees that the problem will continue to exist and therefore the political benefits of always having a hot button issue to whip out every four years.
GlennDL
Related links:
- FYI: ChainMail Hoaxes Update why do these hoaxes exist?
- Spitting Back: debunked Chain E-Mails
- http://www.snopes.com/politics/socialsecurity/illegal.asp
- http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2011/jun/03/national-republican-congressional-committee/nrcc-robocall-debt-ceiling-spending-cuts/
The above was in response to the following e-mail:
----- Original Message -----REMEMBER THIS IS A HOAX-----
From:
To: Glenn Littrell
Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2011 2:48 PM
Subject: Fwd: Fw: SOCIAL SECURITY CHANGES(Glen what do you think of this is it a type of a scam?)
SOCIAL SECURITY CHANGES
It does not matter if you personally like or dislike Obama. You need to sign this petition and flood his e-mail box with e-mails that tell him that, even if the House passes this bill, he needs to veto it. It is already impossible to live on Social Security alone. If the government gives benefits to 'illegal' aliens who have never contributed, where does that leave those of us who have paid into Social Security all our working lives?
As stated below, the Senate voted this week to allow 'illegal' aliens access to Social Security benefits. Attached is an opportunity to sign a petition that requires citizenship for eligibility to that social service.
Instructions are below. If you don't forward the petition and just stop it, we will lose all these names.
If you do not want to sign it, please just forward it to everyone you know.
Thank you!
To add your name, click on 'forward'.. Address it to all of your email correspondents, add your name to the list and send it on.
IMPORTANT NOTE: When the petition hits 1,500, it is up to you to send it to< REFERENCE DELETED gdl else, it will not be sent.
PETITION for President Obama:
Dear Mr. President:
We, the undersigned, protest the bill that the Senate voted on recently which would allow illegal aliens to access our Social Security. We demand that you and all Congressional representatives require citizenship as a pre-requisite for social services in the United States .
1. Mary PETITIONERS DELETED gdl
If you don't forward the petition and just stop it, we will lose all these names.
If you do not want to sign it, please just forward it to everyone you know.
Thank you! Just think every time that the list hits 1,500 in all the forwarded
e-mails, this petition will be sent not just by a thousand petitioners, but rather
THOUSANDS of petitioners!
To add your name, click on 'forward'.
Add your name to the bottom of the list, then
Address it to all of your email correspondents and send..
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